Changes for Next Year...

darthrotary · 06-15-2009, 03:46 PM

This about the cars. Not The Event

This is for discussions about the set-up you ran with this year. Mainly about the suspension, Wheel dimensions and tires used. Of course for ideas list the make model you used. Engine mods can be listed, IF they were a drastic performance enhancement. Otherwise keep the engine mods simple, Stock vs. Ported, N/A vs. Turbo, ect.
If you are a previous attendee, then what did you run before. How did the changes made benefit or hinder the performance for this year.
Then based on all that, what do you plan to do differently for next year.

I just started this thought at the end of the work day, and will add my info tomorrow, gotta have something to do at work right?

djmtsu · 06-15-2009, 04:25 PM

I have run the same FC turbo since 2006.

This year I ran a Miata. Lol. I still have not torn into the FC to find out what happened, but it ran great in the past.

The only changed I have made that affected my experiences were this-

-one year with cheap duals catback
-next year with an Apexi N1 EVO
Wow what a difference. The spool up was much faster, which is key when you stay in the same gear almost the whole time.

-2 years with staggered 17" wheel/tire combo. 235's up front, 255's in back
-1 year with BBS vert wheels, 225/50's all around
Holy SHIT! The difference in handling was insane. With the staggered fit, the car wanted to push, and having no PS, she would fight me the whole time. After every run I would seriously have Popeye forearms. Having a matching width front to back made the car much more neutral and controlled. Stuck like glue!!

Hop this helps!

darthrotary · 06-16-2009, 06:46 AM

Ya man, exactly what I am looking for! This is really more of a discussion to try to keep interest going.

I have run my 85'GS since 2006
2006- only thing done was my motor was rebuilt just in time and hit breakin miles on the way there. Mild Streetport. I couldn't really feel a difference, very little power increase.- at that time damn near stock
2007- not alot done, changed tire brand to Sumitomo, I really like them, I noticed a difference right away in AutoX. Made a difference in the Dragon.
2008- Suspension Tech springs, bushings, Re-Speed strut bar, same Sumitomo tires, But got the RB intake with Holly and the full RB exhaust. That was my best set-up ever!
2009- GSL-SE Suspension Swap, Suspension Tech big fat front Sway and Rear Adjustable (Which I set for Understeer and It Is Totally Worth It!) It takes something serious to kick the ass end out of it

For the 14" rims, I went with the Sumitomos again, BUT, was in a rush, ordered the the wrong type, So I normally order the HTR Z (I or II) but somehow got the reg. HTR. My tires this year were HORRIBLE! But didnt realize till I got there. They Screamed so bad and traction was damn near non existent The combination of a seriously stiff suspension and bad tires sucks.

So for next year, all I am changing is getting the right damn tires! They have done great in the past, and looking forward to see the difference on the 14" and with the sway bars.

lt1_fd3s · 06-16-2009, 08:29 AM

2007 - Drove the red touring LT1 FD - 350ci (friend drove his '89 GTU), R1 lip, RB side skirts, VS style spoiler
2008 - Drove the black R1 rotary FD - nearly stock w/ PowerXS IC, PFC, Koyo Radiator, 3'' exhaust (friend drove his '89 GTU)
2009 - Drove the '89 GTU after buying it from my friend.
2010 - hope to drive the LT1 FD again, 383ci, FEED wide body, shine auto lip spoiler, '99 lip, suspension...

***Herblenny*** · 06-16-2009, 08:36 AM

2010 - I'm hoping that my blk FD will be ready and debut it at DGRR

Kentetsu · 06-16-2009, 06:06 PM

This year was my first year in attendance. What a great time! I had expected to make a few changes to my suspension when I got there (ride height, damper setting, toe, tire pressures) pretty much like I used to for autocross events. However, when we got down there we drove through the Dragon on our way to the resort, and the car handled to damned perfectly I never changed a single thing. Seriously, I can't imagine anything that would have made the car stick any more than she did. She was a very happy car.

Respeed front hollow swaybar
Respeed coilovers 275 Lb. springs with Illuminas
Respeed adjustable rear perches 150 Lb. springs with Bilsteins
ISC Racing adjustable rear bar
Respeed camber plates
Sumitomo HTR 215/50/13 on 13X8 rims
Sterling carb

I had a great time harassing the RX8s that were out there. "Its just an fb, he can't possibly keep up with me".

.

05rex8 · 06-16-2009, 06:22 PM

^don't remember you harassing me

djmtsu · 06-16-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herblenny

2010 - I'm hoping that my blk FD will be ready and debut it at DGRR

Lol! I haven't laid eyes on that car in about 7 years!!!

darthrotary · 06-17-2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traynham

2010 - hope to drive the LT1 FD again, 383ci, FEED wide body, shine auto lip spoiler, '99 lip, suspension...

So if you do bring back the LT1, where there any changes you made to it, based on the first time running it?

Kentetsu- Gotta love those Sumitomo's on the dragon!, but like I said, try the HTR Z's they were even better!

***Herblenny*** · 06-17-2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmtsu

Lol! I haven't laid eyes on that car in about 7 years!!!

LOL! I know.. I haven't sat in it in like 5 years..

Kentetsu · 06-17-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05rex8

^don't remember you harassing me

You were already behind me!

Yeah, the Sumi HTRs actually do a pretty nice job for the dirt cheap price. I usually go through one set per year between autoX and daily driving. I'd consider a more expensive tire, but there isn't much of a selection in 13". Besides, they'd have to be a hell of a lot better than the Sumis to justify what would probably be at least twice the cost...

***TitaniumTT*** · 06-18-2009, 09:06 PM

Changes for next year include a fuel system that doesn't clog every 1000 miles, an FE 6-spd, higher revs, more boost, better alignment, and hopefully being able to run the dragon with the pack as opposed to the following day in the rain

As for the suspension, I'll be o nthe same c/o's but I've since removed the rear sway bar and added 1/16" toe out in the rear which helped turn and traction alot.

need RX7 · 06-19-2009, 05:05 PM

I'm hoping to actually be there next year

By then, hopefully I'll have an engine in the new car (shooting for S5 n/a engine with electric 6pi and VDI) and a 5lug swap with decent suspension and a good set of wheels and tires. If that doesn't work out, I'm sure it'll still be a blast in my shitty sport model (if it can make it there

)

Redhawkjrt · 06-19-2009, 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=Kentetsu;89711]
I had a great time harassing the RX8s that were out there. "Its just an fb, he can't possibly keep up with me".

I can confirm that. In fact, I think he's quoting me.

05rex8 · 06-20-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kentetsu

You were already behind me!

Oh, so I was harassing you then. I get it now.

06-15-2009, 03:46 PM	#1
darthrotary Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125 Rep Power: 18	Changes for Next Year... This about the cars. Not The Event This is for discussions about the set-up you ran with this year. Mainly about the suspension, Wheel dimensions and tires used. Of course for ideas list the make model you used. Engine mods can be listed, IF they were a drastic performance enhancement. Otherwise keep the engine mods simple, Stock vs. Ported, N/A vs. Turbo, ect. If you are a previous attendee, then what did you run before. How did the changes made benefit or hinder the performance for this year. Then based on all that, what do you plan to do differently for next year. I just started this thought at the end of the work day, and will add my info tomorrow, gotta have something to do at work right?

06-15-2009, 04:25 PM	#2
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 22	I have run the same FC turbo since 2006. This year I ran a Miata. Lol. I still have not torn into the FC to find out what happened, but it ran great in the past. The only changed I have made that affected my experiences were this- -one year with cheap duals catback -next year with an Apexi N1 EVO Wow what a difference. The spool up was much faster, which is key when you stay in the same gear almost the whole time. -2 years with staggered 17" wheel/tire combo. 235's up front, 255's in back -1 year with BBS vert wheels, 225/50's all around Holy SHIT! The difference in handling was insane. With the staggered fit, the car wanted to push, and having no PS, she would fight me the whole time. After every run I would seriously have Popeye forearms. Having a matching width front to back made the car much more neutral and controlled. Stuck like glue!! Hop this helps! __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

06-16-2009, 06:46 AM	#3
darthrotary Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125 Rep Power: 18	Ya man, exactly what I am looking for! This is really more of a discussion to try to keep interest going. I have run my 85'GS since 2006 2006- only thing done was my motor was rebuilt just in time and hit breakin miles on the way there. Mild Streetport. I couldn't really feel a difference, very little power increase.- at that time damn near stock 2007- not alot done, changed tire brand to Sumitomo, I really like them, I noticed a difference right away in AutoX. Made a difference in the Dragon. 2008- Suspension Tech springs, bushings, Re-Speed strut bar, same Sumitomo tires, But got the RB intake with Holly and the full RB exhaust. That was my best set-up ever! 2009- GSL-SE Suspension Swap, Suspension Tech big fat front Sway and Rear Adjustable (Which I set for Understeer and It Is Totally Worth It!) It takes something serious to kick the ass end out of it For the 14" rims, I went with the Sumitomos again, BUT, was in a rush, ordered the the wrong type, So I normally order the HTR Z (I or II) but somehow got the reg. HTR. My tires this year were HORRIBLE! But didnt realize till I got there. They Screamed so bad and traction was damn near non existent The combination of a seriously stiff suspension and bad tires sucks. So for next year, all I am changing is getting the right damn tires! They have done great in the past, and looking forward to see the difference on the 14" and with the sway bars. Last edited by darthrotary; 06-16-2009 at 06:48 AM.

06-16-2009, 08:29 AM	#4
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06-16-2009, 08:36 AM	#5
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06-16-2009, 06:06 PM	#6
Kentetsu RCC Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 530 Rep Power: 18	This year was my first year in attendance. What a great time! I had expected to make a few changes to my suspension when I got there (ride height, damper setting, toe, tire pressures) pretty much like I used to for autocross events. However, when we got down there we drove through the Dragon on our way to the resort, and the car handled to damned perfectly I never changed a single thing. Seriously, I can't imagine anything that would have made the car stick any more than she did. She was a very happy car. Respeed front hollow swaybar Respeed coilovers 275 Lb. springs with Illuminas Respeed adjustable rear perches 150 Lb. springs with Bilsteins ISC Racing adjustable rear bar Respeed camber plates Sumitomo HTR 215/50/13 on 13X8 rims Sterling carb I had a great time harassing the RX8s that were out there. "Its just an fb, he can't possibly keep up with me". . __________________ "Learn from the past, or it will become your future...." '85 GS 12a + LSD/Sterling carb/Respeed coilovers/Respeed front swaybar/Respeed adj. rear spring perches/Illuminas/Bilsteins on rear AutoX vids @ http://www.youtube.com/user/Kentetsu1

06-16-2009, 06:22 PM	#7
05rex8 Turbo 8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 131 Rep Power: 17	^don't remember you harassing me __________________

06-18-2009, 09:06 PM	#12
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Changes for next year include a fuel system that doesn't clog every 1000 miles, an FE 6-spd, higher revs, more boost, better alignment, and hopefully being able to run the dragon with the pack as opposed to the following day in the rain As for the suspension, I'll be o nthe same c/o's but I've since removed the rear sway bar and added 1/16" toe out in the rear which helped turn and traction alot. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

06-19-2009, 05:05 PM	#13
need RX7 Clean S4 Nutswinger Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 485 Rep Power: 18	I'm hoping to actually be there next year By then, hopefully I'll have an engine in the new car (shooting for S5 n/a engine with electric 6pi and VDI) and a 5lug swap with decent suspension and a good set of wheels and tires. If that doesn't work out, I'm sure it'll still be a blast in my shitty sport model (if it can make it there ) __________________ -Ted -1986 Mazda RX7 Sport [DD/beater]: engine finally let go at 205k. parts car status. -1986 Mazda RX7 base [resto-mod project]: S5 n/a swap in progress.

06-19-2009, 09:18 PM	#14
Redhawkjrt Brake, Turn, Go! Repeat. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Springfield, Il. Posts: 114 Rep Power: 17	[QUOTE=Kentetsu;89711] I had a great time harassing the RX8s that were out there. "Its just an fb, he can't possibly keep up with me". I can confirm that. In fact, I think he's quoting me.