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The quest for more torque
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sheboygan, Wisconsin
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I don't know for sure (too many factors). I did polish all the dry areas on the intake manifold to 400 grit and polished the wet (after injectors) surfaces to 150 grit. I also am running lower compression (I think 8.2:1 if I measured the water right). However at 40 degrees BTDC my 9.4:1 6-port sounded like a gnome was beating on my hood at 1000 rpm and this one will advance considerably past that (until the engine generates negative torque). I don't know if it is only due to the polished rotors, but that is what I am blaming it on.
Most detonation is actually the collision of two flame fronts. One is caused by the spark plug, the other is caused by a localized hot spot. By polishing the rotor I not only increased the heat rejection (think shiny handles vs. black handles in the sunlight) but I also minimized the possibility of localized hotspots (due to uniform surface finish, no protruding surfaces to absorb heat). Actually I am very happy with the results on this engine, I recently discovered that the Borch handbook's advice to advance the timing until it detonates and then back it off 5 degrees is not very good advice on a rotary. I retarded my timing 30 degrees to 8 degrees BTDC at 1000 rpm and the car has surprisingly good low end torque (lugs to 300 rpm, no problem and will actually accelerate from there). I will be interesting to see this engine with a turbo...
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii USA
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I bet the rotor faces are already black with soot and carbon deposits. You'd be surprised how well deposits after combustion will stick to surfaces. Since this is a rebuild, the engine would've been burning inefficiently due to inferior compression from the seals settling in. This is more than enough time to leave a fine layer of soot on the rotor faces. Too bad we can't tear the motor down just to confirm this... ![]() -Ted |
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