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JL1RX7 · 08-23-2013, 02:48 PM

Get a some of the extra horsepowers from Glenn the maniac all of the horsepowers king. He might a some left over on his quest for all of them.

GySgtFrank · 08-23-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JL1RX7

Get a some of the extra horsepowers from Glenn the maniac all of the horsepowers king. He might a some left over on his quest for all of them.

Unfortunately Glenn's horsepowers are GM contaminated.

GySgtFrank · 09-04-2013, 11:55 AM

Progress has been slow. The front suspension is being a real pain. Lots of measuring, fitting, tack into place, and recheck. Pull it all loose, cut it apart, re-measure, re-cut, re-weld, fit, tack, repeat. I do believe it's right this time. I hope anyway as this part is getting tedious.

I had to move the lower A arms in and down again as the tires were a little too far out when the suspension was cycled up and down. It looks like hell at the moment, nothing some grinding and paint can't fix though. I can't go much further until I get the upper A arms and mount them, so I'll be removing the shock towers until I have to go to work for 2-3 months doing the harvest thing. So no progress will be made until I'm done with that.

kmember by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

***TitaniumTT*** · 09-04-2013, 04:44 PM

DO IT!!!! DO IT NOAW PUSSY BEFORE IT GETS COLD!!!!!

Just got caught up in the thread Gunny..... kickass work so far.... We should chat @ DGRR in 2014.... I'll tell you my idea... but remember there are witnessesd should you attempt to kill me

GySgtFrank · 09-04-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

DO IT!!!! DO IT NOAW PUSSY BEFORE IT GETS COLD!!!!!

Just got caught up in the thread Gunny..... kickass work so far.... We should chat @ DGRR in 2014.... I'll tell you my idea... but remember there are witnessesd should you attempt to kill me

Can't, have to go to work in a week or two so I can earn enough money to make it to DGRR, well that and car parts.

These are what I'm considering for the upper A arms. The arm itself is detachable and comes in different lengths. The mounting points are slotted and use slugs to move the arm side to side for caster adjustment. The adjusters would be nice to fine tune camber adjustments with large adjustments, and camber rate changes, being made by changing out different length arms.

Then use an adjustable coil-over shock attached at the lower A arm.

Pitstop USA also carries splined, gun drilled, front swaybars in various lengths and diameters so I can fit it into my custom application, since neither the Mustang or FB bars will fit what I have done.

I actually moved the tires inboard about 3/4" further on each side with the intention of using through bolt spacers to mount my current high offset wheels. When I get different wheels I will be able to use something with the mounting surface closer to center of the tire. At least up front.

Needless to say, my inner fenders will have to be... ahem... modified.

Now why would I want to kill you? Hurt you severely if it involves LS's, but not kill you.

***TitaniumTT*** · 09-04-2013, 07:44 PM

It may involve LS's

But the route I plan to take to radically update the FailBoats lack luster suspension will be vastly different and should allow for 255+ tires at all corners....

GySgtFrank · 09-04-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

It may involve LS's

But the route I plan to take to radically update the FailBoats lack luster suspension will be vastly different and should allow for 255+ tires at all corners....

Going widebody, 255s wouldn't be any problem. I might be able to get away with 255s up front, but plan to use 245s as they are shorter than any of the 255s I've seen. I have looked at IRS and may do that myself sometime, but for now I just want to get it up and going with the suspension/chassis mods and decent power. When I start breaking the rear I'll revisit that idea I suppose.

... and both strut towers removed. Plasma cutters are the shit.

strut tower removal by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

GySgtFrank · 09-09-2013, 12:09 AM

Got some measurements from AJ to verify that I had my wheels placed correctly, I did amazingly enough. So I started on clearancing for the tires. I'm going for enough clearance to run 255s if I decide to, better to set that up now than wish I had later.

Cut out most of the passenger side inner wheel well as they definitely hit pretty much everywhere. Also notching the frame rails for clearance. The tires fit without it, but being able to turn them to full lock would be a rather nice luxury.

front suspension by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

open front wheel well by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

I will be putting in a loop to mount the shocks to as well as the upper A arm mounts on a pedestal off the frame rails. The frame rails and loop will be triangulated back to the firewall to add stiffness and support. Need less to say lots of bracing and figuring still to go.

I also need 2 inches more clearance at the top of the wheel arches for suspension movement with the large diameter tires. Need to pull the fenders to modify the basic body structure for that.

I'm trying to get updates posted even though it's not really presentable yet, as I will be disappearing for 2 or 3 months pretty soon to go to work. I won't be able to do much else until we finish up with harvest.

GySgtFrank · 09-13-2013, 03:45 PM

Since we got rained out today, I finished up the passenger side wheel arch and test fitted the wheel and tire. I had to do a little more minor trimming to ensure that the wheel can turn through it's entire radius while under full compression and extension.

Wheel at full compression:

full jounce by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

You can actually see how I mounted my fancy dancey cold air intake. The stock box is modified and through bolted to the bottom of the structure in front of the tire. I remove the front nose panel to access it. It clears, so it looks like I don't have to redo that part at least.

Mitchocalypse · 09-13-2013, 07:06 PM

that car is in insane condition given its age.

nice.

GySgtFrank · 09-13-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchocalypse

that car is in insane condition given its age.

nice.

Thanks Mitch. It is just a base model that came with the 12A and 4 speed. The only option it had was A/C. The engine was blown and it was probably destined for the crusher, as so many other 1stgens are, if I hadn't bought it. It has some hail dents, but very little rust. The only rust through it had was where the front of the lower rear axle control arms mount to the body, the normal spot. This is no longer a concern.

chibikougan · 09-13-2013, 08:36 PM

Bitchin stang bro!

Haha I can't even keep air in my tires

GySgtFrank · 09-13-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chibikougan

Bitchin stang bro!

Bite me! Biotch.

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Originally Posted by chibikougan

Haha I can't even keep air in my tires

Well, mine haven't exactly been getting a lot of wear and tear on them lately either. It could be worse, we could own FDs where one set of tires is all you'll ever need.

Pete_89T2 · 09-14-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

It could be worse, we could own FDs where one set of tires is all you'll ever need.

LOL, yeah you get a break on tires but you'll need a damned good set of jack stands that are rated for 24/7 usage!

the spyder · 09-14-2013, 01:23 AM

Awesome build thread- how are you keeping the front end trammed in during the build?

09-04-2013, 11:55 AM	#3
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	Progress has been slow. The front suspension is being a real pain. Lots of measuring, fitting, tack into place, and recheck. Pull it all loose, cut it apart, re-measure, re-cut, re-weld, fit, tack, repeat. I do believe it's right this time. I hope anyway as this part is getting tedious. I had to move the lower A arms in and down again as the tires were a little too far out when the suspension was cycled up and down. It looks like hell at the moment, nothing some grinding and paint can't fix though. I can't go much further until I get the upper A arms and mount them, so I'll be removing the shock towers until I have to go to work for 2-3 months doing the harvest thing. So no progress will be made until I'm done with that. kmember by GySgtFrank, on Flickr __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

09-04-2013, 04:44 PM	#4
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	DO IT!!!! DO IT NOAW PUSSY BEFORE IT GETS COLD!!!!! Just got caught up in the thread Gunny..... kickass work so far.... We should chat @ DGRR in 2014.... I'll tell you my idea... but remember there are witnessesd should you attempt to kill me __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

09-04-2013, 07:44 PM	#6
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	It may involve LS's But the route I plan to take to radically update the FailBoats lack luster suspension will be vastly different and should allow for 255+ tires at all corners.... __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

09-09-2013, 12:09 AM	#8
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	Got some measurements from AJ to verify that I had my wheels placed correctly, I did amazingly enough. So I started on clearancing for the tires. I'm going for enough clearance to run 255s if I decide to, better to set that up now than wish I had later. Cut out most of the passenger side inner wheel well as they definitely hit pretty much everywhere. Also notching the frame rails for clearance. The tires fit without it, but being able to turn them to full lock would be a rather nice luxury. front suspension by GySgtFrank, on Flickr open front wheel well by GySgtFrank, on Flickr I will be putting in a loop to mount the shocks to as well as the upper A arm mounts on a pedestal off the frame rails. The frame rails and loop will be triangulated back to the firewall to add stiffness and support. Need less to say lots of bracing and figuring still to go. I also need 2 inches more clearance at the top of the wheel arches for suspension movement with the large diameter tires. Need to pull the fenders to modify the basic body structure for that. I'm trying to get updates posted even though it's not really presentable yet, as I will be disappearing for 2 or 3 months pretty soon to go to work. I won't be able to do much else until we finish up with harvest. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

09-13-2013, 03:45 PM	#9
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	Since we got rained out today, I finished up the passenger side wheel arch and test fitted the wheel and tire. I had to do a little more minor trimming to ensure that the wheel can turn through it's entire radius while under full compression and extension. Wheel at full compression: full jounce by GySgtFrank, on Flickr You can actually see how I mounted my fancy dancey cold air intake. The stock box is modified and through bolted to the bottom of the structure in front of the tire. I remove the front nose panel to access it. It clears, so it looks like I don't have to redo that part at least. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585 Last edited by GySgtFrank; 09-13-2013 at 04:45 PM.

08-23-2013, 02:48 PM	#1
JL1RX7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Front Royal, VA Posts: 487 Rep Power: 18	Get a some of the extra horsepowers from Glenn the maniac all of the horsepowers king. He might a some left over on his quest for all of them.

09-13-2013, 07:06 PM	#10
Mitchocalypse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 179 Rep Power: 14	that car is in insane condition given its age. nice. __________________

09-14-2013, 01:23 AM	#15
the spyder Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Awesome build thread- how are you keeping the front end trammed in during the build?