Premix & Holley fuel pump

Rotorypolo · 11-30-2009, 09:54 AM

Has anybody experience running premix in the tank with Holley Red? I just recently noticed a leak around the body if the pump and not sure premix will cause leaking?? The pump is fairly new. I wonder if these pumps are not suitable to run with permix. Thanks s bunch

Kentetsu · 12-01-2009, 01:00 AM

This is the second thread on this topic that I've seen in the last few days. Someone mentioned that the Holley fuel pumps seem to be prone to leaks. I don't think I'd blame this on premix. Good luck...

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FC Zach · 12-03-2009, 01:41 AM

I've used the Holley set up on a friends car and there weren't any problems with the pump. I have run a Summit Racing kit before on my own car that is styled similar to either an Aeromotive or a Holley (not too sure since I've changed my mind so much) and had no problem with leaks.

Is this going on your RX-3 or another car?

IH8DSM · 12-04-2009, 02:53 AM

ive got a holley fuel pump in my carb'd 7 with no problems

Rotorypolo · 12-04-2009, 08:29 PM

Are you guys running premix in the fuel with the Holley pump??

FC Zach · 12-05-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotorypolo

Are you guys running premix in the fuel with the Holley pump??

I do and I think IH8DSM does as well

reaper · 12-05-2009, 12:35 AM

this is something i've been wanting to know aswell, i;ve been looking into a holly black

Rotorypolo · 12-05-2009, 09:28 AM

I have contacted Holley USA, and they were unable to verify the compatibility of their pump with Premixes. They said the content inside these fuel might potentially Flood the seals and causing leakage around the housing and is not rebuildable.

Rogue_Wulff · 12-05-2009, 03:57 PM

What type of premix are you using?

Running a FPR? Return style, or dead-headed?

I cannot see how premix would damage the seals, since they are supposedly able to withstand gasoline. If anything, the premix should actually reduce wear inside the pump, since it would allow lubrication of anything that is exposed to the fuel.

Dead-headed systems can actually cause the pump to run hot, since the fuel flowing thru it is not moving as quickly as a return style system. The fuel flow helps to cool the pump. A pump that gets hotter, is more likely to have problems over the same pump in a system that allows the pump to run cooler.

Also, with more fuel supplies becoming tainted with ethanol, more fuel pumps are damaged by the corrosive effects of the ethanol.

IH8DSM · 12-06-2009, 11:37 PM

I run it with my gas and im just running a mr gasket fpr, and im just running cheap premix from wally world. comes in a blue jug 2 storke oil

jr515 · 05-14-2010, 08:30 PM

how may ounces per gallon?

FC Zach · 05-15-2010, 08:38 AM

1 oz per gallon if there isn't a MOP currently on the vehicle.

jfaplanet · 05-16-2010, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jr515

how may ounces per gallon?

I've backed down from 1 oz per gallon to 1/2 oz per gallon in the REPU, as has IH8DSM. 1 oz seemed to cause too much smoke. But I got away from the Holley because it was too loud. Running the Mr. Gasket pump now without any problems.

fire85gslse · 06-02-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotorypolo

Has anybody experience running premix in the tank with Holley Red? I just recently noticed a leak around the body if the pump and not sure premix will cause leaking?? The pump is fairly new. I wonder if these pumps are not suitable to run with permix. Thanks s bunch

Dont sound like a premix issue at all. I personally dont like the holley red (too loud). Mr Gasket is the way to go. Cheap and good quality

11-30-2009, 09:54 AM	#1
Rotorypolo Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ATL Posts: 116 Rep Power: 18	Premix & Holley fuel pump Has anybody experience running premix in the tank with Holley Red? I just recently noticed a leak around the body if the pump and not sure premix will cause leaking?? The pump is fairly new. I wonder if these pumps are not suitable to run with permix. Thanks s bunch __________________ 1994 RX-7 PEP - (SOLD) 1993 RX-7 R1 - (under the knife) 1973 RX-3 13b 5 speed (DGRR 2011- 1st in class)

12-01-2009, 01:00 AM	#2
Kentetsu RCC Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 530 Rep Power: 18	This is the second thread on this topic that I've seen in the last few days. Someone mentioned that the Holley fuel pumps seem to be prone to leaks. I don't think I'd blame this on premix. Good luck... . __________________ "Learn from the past, or it will become your future...." '85 GS 12a + LSD/Sterling carb/Respeed coilovers/Respeed front swaybar/Respeed adj. rear spring perches/Illuminas/Bilsteins on rear AutoX vids @ http://www.youtube.com/user/Kentetsu1

12-03-2009, 01:41 AM	#3
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 20	I've used the Holley set up on a friends car and there weren't any problems with the pump. I have run a Summit Racing kit before on my own car that is styled similar to either an Aeromotive or a Holley (not too sure since I've changed my mind so much) and had no problem with leaks. Is this going on your RX-3 or another car? __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4 Last edited by FC Zach; 12-03-2009 at 01:43 AM.

12-04-2009, 02:53 AM	#4
IH8DSM RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 18	ive got a holley fuel pump in my carb'd 7 with no problems __________________ 85 rx7 gsl-se - AA tags/ never ending project will never run

12-04-2009, 08:29 PM	#5
Rotorypolo Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ATL Posts: 116 Rep Power: 18	Are you guys running premix in the fuel with the Holley pump?? __________________ 1994 RX-7 PEP - (SOLD) 1993 RX-7 R1 - (under the knife) 1973 RX-3 13b 5 speed (DGRR 2011- 1st in class)

12-05-2009, 12:35 AM	#7
reaper 2slow4u Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	this is something i've been wanting to know aswell, i;ve been looking into a holly black __________________ my hoarse is amazing sincityrotary.com a place for las vegas rotary enthusiasts

12-05-2009, 09:28 AM	#8
Rotorypolo Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ATL Posts: 116 Rep Power: 18	I have contacted Holley USA, and they were unable to verify the compatibility of their pump with Premixes. They said the content inside these fuel might potentially Flood the seals and causing leakage around the housing and is not rebuildable. __________________ 1994 RX-7 PEP - (SOLD) 1993 RX-7 R1 - (under the knife) 1973 RX-3 13b 5 speed (DGRR 2011- 1st in class)

12-05-2009, 03:57 PM	#9
Rogue_Wulff Non Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 18	What type of premix are you using? Running a FPR? Return style, or dead-headed? I cannot see how premix would damage the seals, since they are supposedly able to withstand gasoline. If anything, the premix should actually reduce wear inside the pump, since it would allow lubrication of anything that is exposed to the fuel. Dead-headed systems can actually cause the pump to run hot, since the fuel flowing thru it is not moving as quickly as a return style system. The fuel flow helps to cool the pump. A pump that gets hotter, is more likely to have problems over the same pump in a system that allows the pump to run cooler. Also, with more fuel supplies becoming tainted with ethanol, more fuel pumps are damaged by the corrosive effects of the ethanol.

12-06-2009, 11:37 PM	#10
IH8DSM RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 18	I run it with my gas and im just running a mr gasket fpr, and im just running cheap premix from wally world. comes in a blue jug 2 storke oil __________________ 85 rx7 gsl-se - AA tags/ never ending project will never run

05-14-2010, 08:30 PM	#11
jr515 brap brap Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa, Fl. Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	how may ounces per gallon?

05-15-2010, 08:38 AM	#12
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 20	1 oz per gallon if there isn't a MOP currently on the vehicle. __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4